Rogue PvE in WoW Forever
- October 15, 2026 patch notes.
Rogue gets fixes only in the 15 October notes, and Sap no longer triggers weapon procs.
Human Sword Specialization is replaced by Ruthless, +2% critical strike chance on all spells and attacks.
Orc Axe Specialization is replaced by Savage, +1% critical strike chance. Blood Fury's cooldown rises from 2 to 3 minutes. Shatter Curse no longer grants immunity, and it cuts magic damage taken by 5% (was 15%). Full list: October 15 patch notes. On our tier list Assassination and
Combat hold A for DPS; Subtlety holds B.
This page is
raid and
dungeons melee:
Kick, Sap, Slice and Dice, Combat on any 1-hander or Assassination daggers. Hub: WoW Forever Rogue. Sibling: Rogue PvP.
Blizzard's 7 October kit keeps the
Rogue as the class with the highest single-target melee damage potential. Every poison has more charges and stacks with Sharpening Stones and Weightstones. Sap no longer breaks Stealth, so you can take 1 mob out of a big pack before the tank pulls. Expose Armor now matches 5 Sunder Armors and no longer blocks the tank's Sunder, and Feint drops twice as much threat.

Your Rogue at 60 before Barrow Deeps opens
Engineering + Enchanting on the Starter Pack. Combat swords set before the 1st session.


WoW Forever Power Leveling & Gearing
Combat vs Assassination at 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 (PvE)
Subtlety openers belong on the PvP page. Here you pick
Combat or Assassination for lockouts. Blizzard named the golds on 7 October; point spends stay provisional while the beta runs.
Combat. Any 1-hander works now. Hack and Slash folds the old Sword, Dagger, Mace and Fist specializations into 1
talent and gives axes the sword's extra-attack chance. Flawless Execution, the 16-point
gold, makes Eviscerate cost 10 less Energy. Weapon Expertise lowers the target's dodge and parry, and Precision adds hit to poisons too. Watch threat: Feint now drops twice as much, so press it after a stealthed opener.
Assassination. Daggers in both hands. Cold Blood moves down to 16 points. Mutilate is the new 21-point gold: 60 Energy, both daggers, more damage on poisoned targets and 2 combo points. Venom is the new 31-point finisher: 30% more poison damage and 10% more poison procs. Blizzard expects Assassination to keep Venom and Slice and Dice up and spend fewer finishers on Rupture and Eviscerate.
Do not spend golds in Subtlety for
raid night. Recheck the talent calculator.
Rogue BiS by week (PvE)
Agility, hit, crit. Daggers for Assassination, any 1-hander for
Combat now that axes are in. Named lists stay provisional.
Week 1. Quest agility blues. Get week-1 gear done.
Weeks 2–3. Pre-
raid
dungeon set. 1 clear for
quests. Get the dungeon set done.
From 9 December.
Barrow Deeps (10),
Hyjal Summit (20) and
Onyxia's Lair (40). Raid carry options.
Every other spec, and the 18 tier 1 sets: BiS lists for every spec.
Open gear offer →Agility 1-handers through raid night.
Rogue profession tiers (PvE)
Rogue PvE Ultimate is
Engineering +
Enchanting: gadgets and weapon enchants. Live packages match checkout.
Open a tier to land on
Rogue
Combat with that pair selected.
PvE Basic
Engineering
Mining
- Bombs and utility for early raids
- Mining keeps Engi self-funded
- Bombs and gadgets help early raids
- LW+Skin if you want crafted leather
- Levels with you on the route
- No gatherer partner required
PvE Max
Engineering
Enchanting
- Bombs plus weapon enchants
- Gatherer or auction house for mats
- Rogue/Enhancement raid hybrid pick
- Leatherworking if you want crafted armor
- Mats bought or a gatherer partner
- Both crafts levelled on the route
Gold farming
Mining
Skinning
- Ore sells; skins are free on beast kills
- Skinning barely slows a quest route
- Funds Engineering mats or auction sales
- Swap Skin→Herb if herb prices spike
- Nodes while you quest
- Stack for the launch AH
PvP Basic
Engineering
Mining
- Engineering is the PvP profession
- Mining feeds bombs, scopes, gadgets
- Self-sufficient on the PvP ruleset
- Grenades and nets decide world PvP
- Levels with you on the route
- No gatherer partner required
PvP Max
Engineering
Enchanting
- Gadgets plus permanent enchants
- Partner gathers ore; buy greens for dust
- Gadgets plus lasting weapon enchants
- Worth it if you live in world PvP
- Mats bought or a gatherer partner
- Both crafts levelled on the route
Addons for a Forever Rogue (PvE)
Raid melee addons for
Rogue.
- ThreatClassic2: opener dump.
- Energy tick weakaura ports: optional until combat log is public.
- Questie: 1 to 60.
- Details!: parse after lockouts; Forever ports provisional.
- ClassicCodex:
quest backup.
Stealth nameplate tools wait for the PvP sibling.
Leveling hours and the 2 speeds
Stealth skips camps, energy still gates pull speed. Count on 150 hours of
quests; since the 1 October beta build
dungeon quests pay 50% less bonus XP, so the route stays in the open world. Pack $299 or $420 on the Normal ruleset. A human Pro plays your
Rogue in our own gaming hubs, on a PC dedicated to your account and a residential IP in your city, so it looks exactly like you playing from home. Rogue power leveling.
From the source
Official“Sap no longer has a chance to activate weapon procs.”
FAQ
Open Starter Pack →$299 with 1 booster or $420 with 2. A human Pro plays it on a PC dedicated to your account, from a residential IP in your city.
- Fact update for the October 15, 2026 patch notes: Sap fix, Human Ruthless, Orc Savage and Blood Fury.
- October refresh: Blizzard's 7 October Rogue kit (Hack and Slash, Flawless Execution, Mutilate, Venom, poison charges), a build FAQ and the 1 October XP change.
- Published the Rogue PvE mega: Combat boards, dungeon BiS, Engineering tiers, kick addons.
More Rogue guides

Classes & Races
Nine Classic classes. Six free new combos. Skyborne is paid. All nine classes have full change lists.

Class Changes
All nine classes have full Blizzard lists: Paladin at BlizzCon, four classes on Sep 30 and four on Oct 7.

Paladin
Holy Strike at 6. Seals stay. Seal of Fury + Judgment taunts. Still no interrupt.

Undead Paladin
The free Horde combo and the cinematic lead. Dedicated 1–60 route on the shelf.

Dwarf Shaman
The free Alliance combo. Class and faction preset. Same 1–60 price as generic leveling.

Skyborne
Paid Shen’dorei race. Horde or Alliance at create. Zephras Isle is 1–12 and pack-gated.

Racials
Every race: 2 active + 2 passive on a similar budget. Will of the Forsaken is not immunity.

Talent Trees
Classic 51-point trees plus a new 16-point row. Plan the build before beta cap 30.

Dual Spec
Level 40 for now, and Blizzard is discussing the level. Beta respec is 1 silver; on live it climbs fast and falls once a week.

Realmless
No realm list. You pick Normal, PvP, or Roleplaying. Regions stay apart for now. Hardcore after launch.

vs Classic
A new Year-1 game, not a Classic patch. Realmless, new combos, raids on Dec 9.

Hunter
Pets, traps, Human Hunter is new. Best races and the 1–60 plan before raids open.

Mage
Orc Mage is new. Classic schools, Forever hit/crit merge, leveling before Dec 9.

Warrior
Arms, Fury, Protection. Weapon skill still matters. Cap 60 before the raids.

Rogue
Assassination, Combat, Subtlety. Stealth and openers for Forever PvE and PvP.

Warlock
Troll Warlock is new. Pets, curses, leveling and race picks for Forever.

Shaman
Dwarf Shaman is free Alliance. Elemental, Enhancement, Restoration for Forever.

Druid
Balance, Feral, Restoration. Forms, leveling speed and race picks for Forever.

Balance Druid PvE
WoW Forever Balance Druid PvE Guide: BiS, Talents, Leveling, Best Race

Elemental Shaman PvE
WoW Forever Elemental Shaman PvE Guide: Talents, BiS, Lava Burst, Best Race

Enhancement Shaman PvE
WoW Forever Enhancement Shaman PvE Guide: BiS, Talents, 2H vs Dual Wield, Best Race

Feral Druid PvE
WoW Forever Feral Druid PvE Guide: BiS, Cat Build, Bear Tank Talents, Best Race

Fury Warrior PvE
WoW Forever Fury Warrior PvE Guide: Talents, BiS, Professions, Best Race

Gnome Racials: Abilities and Best Classes
WoW Forever Gnome Racials: Abilities and Best Classes

Holy Paladin PvE
WoW Forever Holy Paladin PvE Guide: Talents, BiS, Professions, Best Race

Holy Priest PvE
WoW Forever Holy Priest PvE Guide: Talents, BiS, Professions, Best Race

Human Racials: Ruthless and the Best Classes After October 15
WoW Forever Human Racials: Ruthless and the Best Classes After October 15

Hunter PvE
WoW Forever Hunter PvE Guide: BiS, Talents, Best Race, Professions

Mage PvE
WoW Forever Mage PvE Guide: BiS, Talents, Fire and Frost Build

Night Elf Racials: Abilities and Best Classes
WoW Forever Night Elf Racials: Abilities and Best Classes

Orc Racials: Savage, Blood Fury and the Best Classes After October 15
WoW Forever Orc Racials: Savage, Blood Fury and the Best Classes After October 15

Priest
WoW Forever Priest Guide: October 15 Changes, Talents and Leveling

Protection Paladin Tank
WoW Forever Protection Paladin Tank Guide: Build, Seal of Fury, Talents, BiS

Protection Warrior Tank
WoW Forever Protection Warrior Tank Guide: Talents, BiS, Best Race

Resto Druid PvE
WoW Forever Resto Druid PvE Guide: BiS, Talents, Best Race, Professions

Resto Shaman PvE
WoW Forever Resto Shaman PvE Guide: Build, BiS, Talents, Best Race

Ret Paladin PvE
WoW Forever Ret Paladin PvE Guide: Build, Talents, Twist of Light, BiS

Shadow Priest PvE
WoW Forever Shadow Priest PvE Guide: Talents, BiS, Professions, Best Race

Tauren Racials: Abilities and Best Classes
WoW Forever Tauren Racials: Abilities and Best Classes

Troll Racials: Abilities and Best Classes
WoW Forever Troll Racials: Abilities and Best Classes

Warlock PvE
WoW Forever Warlock PvE Guide: Affliction Talents, BiS, Pet Tank, Best Race